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Guides => Other MST3K Related Bots => Topic started by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 07:17:06 AM

Title: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 07:17:06 AM
Here's my take on beeper, the precursor to Tom Servo. He was featured in the un-aired pilot episode "K00 - The Green Slime" in 1988.

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Here's the episode in two parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5f-yqtl7l4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrG6j8pnXhA



Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 07:32:25 AM
The base is a regular ol' traffic cone from Lowe's and a "Marine Dock 12" Piling Cone Cap Boat Pylon Edge Post Head." The cone cap can be purchased from amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/Marine-Piling-Pylon-White-Cover/dp/B00M35JPN8/

I used the 12" version, and cut it down to 10 3/4" in diameter. Then I used the excess as a lip on the bottom to curve in. I also glued black foam insulation around the lip to help round it off.

The hands are from the great bot part master, Robert Bukoski.

Arms are made from parts of an old steam vac hose.

Shoulders are E-pins aka empire pins.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 08:09:04 AM
Originally, I thought the head was a vintage microphone but I've had no luck finding anything that resembled it whatsoever. So I have to give a HUGE thanks to Bob Bukoski for his help because I almost gave up on this project. Bob suggested that the head resembled an old slide viewer. I thought he was crazy but after doing some research I stumbled upon the "Halina Slide Viewer" which had a very similar shape to the original beeper. Luckily, because of the way in which the Halina is constructed I was able to cut it down and re-glue it to half its original size.

What I love most about the Halina is that it's vintage which is a rule I try to abide by as much as possible when using similar parts in place of unknown ones.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 08:11:40 AM
and last but not least, the cornea. I cut down a vintage white 1980's l'eggs eggs shell to create the cornea. Again, keeping it vintage.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 08:25:54 AM
Shoot, I forgot to talk about the helmet. Sooo they have tons of different names: penny jar, display container, candy jar, candy container, plastic fishbowl container, candy dispenser, cookie dispenser  etc. The trick is finding one that has two placement surfaces at the correct angle. I bought 10 different jars, containers, whatever and this is the closest one.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DJXV6MG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Another concern is the size. This one is a 1.25 gallon and while it's not perfect, it does the job. My guess is that the one Joel used was around 2 gallons. You can tell because his is much wider than mine.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Ron on April 21, 2015, 08:29:01 AM
AMAZING WORK!

I've had several conversations with Joel over the years about what traffic cone he supposedly used, and even contacted the curator of the world's largest traffic cone museum (who had never seen a cone like the one on KTMA Beeper / Servo)...

It's so cool to see one that looks like the original part!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 21, 2015, 09:21:11 AM
Thanks Ron!

Yeah, I did a lot of research too but I got nothing :(  At this point I'm all about finding parts that closely resemble the originals.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: shorty1k on April 21, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
Yes!! Finally a super simple solution to the ktma cone problem! I had been stocking parts for a silver servo down the road and now I'll be able to get one without messing with 3d printing, sanding, and a ton of gluing pieces together. Thanks for making such detailed threads! If you could figure out a solution for ktma cambot next, you'll be my fricken hero!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: 1984gojifan on April 22, 2015, 03:31:39 PM
You're Beeper is amazing :) I was thinking about making one myself.  ;)
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: sledge_riprock on April 22, 2015, 06:35:10 PM
Again great job on Beeper.

Also I think you're on the right track with the hoverskirt being made out of two separate items. I recently was carefully reviewing all the KTMA episodes and there are two instances where you can see a definite gap between the traffic cone and the flared bottom piece on the hoverskirt. I don't have any good screen shots at the moment but if you check out the second host segment in K09 Phase IV and the 3rd host segment in K18 Su-Muru you can check it out yourselves.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: DaZero on April 23, 2015, 01:17:19 AM
Its amazing, you think you've hit a block and cant go any further, and now you may have very cracked one of the biggest mysteries of the ktma bots themselves, a mystery going right back the beginning itself!

Speaking of mysteries, how do you keep the helmet jar attached but removable for adjusting? With some careful design for the eye assempy, you could make it removable so you could have a base body with interchangable Beeper & KTMA Servo heads!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on April 24, 2015, 07:20:40 AM
Thanks a lot guys. I'm glad I could give something back to the forum.

First I'd like to address the gap in his hover skirt. After the traffic cone was cut to the desired height, I tried to make the bottom outer edge as sharp as possible by grinding down the inside edge (No picture unfortunately). This helped to create a more seamless transition into the marine cone. Of course it's not perfect, so if you squat down and look at the hoverskirt from a lower angle, the gap is more visible. Luckily, the gap isn't too bad but maybe as sledge_riprock mentioned the original was also a two piece.

The helmet is very thin which allows it to be flexible. I cut the mouth of the container so that it would be a hair smaller than the barrel's "head hoop" (thank you, Google). And while my helmet clamps around the head hoop, Joel's is pinched in between the barrel and the shoulders. You can tell because the e-pin shoulders are spread wide and the mouth of his helmet/jar reaches further down past the head hoop where the barrel is fatter.

As you can see in the photo, I can easily remove beeper's eye/head. I would love to swap it out with a servo head but my servo's pvc pipe is too large. I'll have to make another one to replace it with. Thanks for that suggestion, DaZero.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: 1984gojifan on April 26, 2015, 07:55:54 PM
Originally, I thought the head was a vintage microphone but I've had no luck finding anything that resembled it whatsoever. So I have to give a HUGE thanks to Bob Bukoski for his help because I almost gave up on this project. Bob suggested that the head resembled an old slide viewer.
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Once again Neil Bridges is WRONG!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: DaZero on April 27, 2015, 08:40:57 AM

As you can see in the photo, I can easily remove beeper's eye/head. I would love to swap it out with a servo head but my servo's pvc pipe is too large. I'll have to make another one to replace it with. Thanks for that suggestion, DaZero.
Glad to be of help!

Hey, since you've more or less solved the mystery of KTMA Beeper's/Servo's cone, that its 2 found & modified items rather 1 found item, that fact Joel just happened to have a orange cone tip when making KTMA Cambot's separate camera basically means you solved 2 parts mysteries for the price of 1.....Beeper!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Ron on May 05, 2015, 02:43:42 PM
It's nice to put this MST'ery to rest ;)
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on May 05, 2015, 08:14:45 PM
lol, oh Ron.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Ron on May 06, 2015, 04:14:02 PM
Heh!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on October 08, 2015, 04:29:18 PM
uh ohhh, are you guys thinking what I'm thinking?
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on October 08, 2015, 04:43:11 PM
It looks like the beeper/servo case is open again. This is an Italian/Space Age style plastic stand from the 70's by a company called "Kartell." Today they make acrylic kitchen stuff mostly I think but back then they made all kinds of cool space age style home decor. This particular one came in green but they could have made others orange. Is Joel certain that it was a traffic cone? Dun dun duuuunn
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: 1984gojifan on October 09, 2015, 06:40:14 PM
OH WOWWW! Where can i find one find one of those?
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Ron on October 10, 2015, 08:24:35 PM
Mind BLOWN!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Ron on October 10, 2015, 08:36:47 PM
Related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwjxzx-2dT8
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: bryguytoofly on October 11, 2015, 12:30:09 PM
@1984gojifan - Ebay, where else? :)

@Ron - The Caroma is very similar to mine but there are very subtle differences, mostly in the lid. The way I came across mine was from researching Kartell desk organizers which have plenty of knock-offs themselves. Not sure who came out with the original mold of this but whatever the case may be, these make great hover skirts. It seems as though these don't pop up very often so I'm going to keep them in their original state in case somebody wants to make a mold or a 3D print scan.
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: BeepertheCreeper on December 15, 2017, 07:21:20 PM
This looks amazing!! as you can see I love Beeper but I was wondering if someone could make a list of all the pieces cause I want to make him Thanks
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Danzilla93 on January 12, 2018, 06:32:06 PM
Beeper parts have been at the top of my "look for at every antique store and thrift shop" list for a while now, especially the plastic "hoverskirt" stand.  So far, no luck.  However, I did have one of those plastic slide viewers in my hand a few months ago that looked nearly identical to Beeper's eye/head/thingie.  It wasn't quite right, so I put it back, but it was an encouraging sign that building a Beeper might not be such an impossible task!

I have to say, though, those funky 70's stands are hard to find.  I've seen a few of the knockoffs on eBay, but, as bryguytoofly said above, the lid isn't quite right.  I'm hoping I'll see one at an antique store for cheap one day.  Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Beeper
Post by: Sgt Nate V on July 17, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
If you want to have some more accuracy, then the arms are smooth in the wrist area compared to the rest of them. I've also noticed this little part in between the neck and head that yours doesn't seem to have.

EDIT: After viewing a photo of an unmodified slide viewer in this thread, it may actually be the bottom part of the slide viewer as seen from the back.

EDIT2: Disregard the previous edit.