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I wouldn't do that the originals. Tom is fine. I would probably make a resin copy of Crow to mess with.


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Crow T. Robot / Re: My first bot build! Crow T. Robot lives!
« on: January 06, 2016, 12:55:56 AM »
"One question....What is the right way to fasten the shoulder joints to the shoulder blocks? Bob's kit just uses a wiring head clamp pushed around the peg, but it falls off so easily. Did the show do this? I'd much rather put a screw with a washer on the end, if that's accurate. "

Hey! Great job on your Crow and Servo. The electrical spade that hold the pin into the shoulder block is show accurate. The original desk lamp had a snap ring that held the pin in place. My guess is that they either lost the snap ring and found a quick substitute or they chose to use that electric spade to make it easier to remove and replace Crow's arms.

When attaching the pin with the spade you need to crimp the top edges around the groove in the pin with a pair of small pliers. Below are a couple of pics I'll try to add to the instruction guide. Once they're crimped they stay on quite well.

Also the paint job looks real good. I haven't heard anything about the Lime Gold Metal Flake being discontinued. I've been buying fairly large quantities of it online without any problems.  ;D

Damn! I wish I would have known about that sooner. I already shaved the ends and tapped them for a small automotive washer/screw.

So was Crow always Lime/Metal Flake Gold? in some episodes, he clearly is. He has that greenish cast over the gold, but in a lot of the season 4/5 episodes, he definitely looks warmer. I don't think the Inca Gold existed back then as a custom color, but he looks too warm to be lime gold in a lot of the spots.

I still plan to get some cans of Metal Flake Gold online. It's technically a tinted clear-coat, so it should go over the Inca Gold just fine.

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Buy / Sell / Trade / WTB MST3K Janus model kit or DVD pack-in figurines
« on: December 31, 2015, 09:31:27 PM »
Hey fellow Msties! Like the topic says, I'm looking for the MST3K Janus model kit. It doesn't need to be the original, I'll go with resin copies or a garage kit. I plan to use the parts to build custom action figures of Mike, Joel, and the three bots, instead of just assembling it as a static model kit.

Alternatively, I'm also looking for the three robots that came with the Rhino home video releases. They're like five inch figurines of Gypsy, Tom, and Crow.

If you can help with any of this, please let me know!!


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Tom Servo / My second bot build, Tom Servo!
« on: December 31, 2015, 08:03:03 PM »
***Crow is posted in the Crow builders forum

Hey guys, first post here. I've been lurking around for awhile...

I've been an obsessive MST3K fan since about 1994 and I always wanted a pair of the bots.
I'm actually a prop builder(mostly Ghostbusters stuff) and statue/figure maker guy, so I have plenty of tools and experience, just not with the bots.

For Christmas, my awesome wife bought me the Bob kits from ebay. Best Christmas ever! Despite having the flu, I went to work on the 26th and had them finished three days later. LONG HOURS.

I followed his guides mostly, but I added some of my own techniques(paint types, adhesives, etc).

TOM SERVO

Tom was my second robot to make. Tom is way easier to make than Crow. I'd say Crow's head alone is harder to make than Tom. Tom just fits together so much easier and his parts are simpler. Anyhow, he's pretty basic. I followed the directions and used the correct parts. The ony thing I added was a thick washer under the hover skirt to get a tighter connection so the head doesn't pop up withn you hold him by his rod, which he appreciates. The washer makes the head rotation smoother underneath, too.

The hardest part of Tom? Taping off the engine block. I ended up just brush painting the silver pistons. For any red parts that peeled off or bled behind the tape(his beak, some of the motor), I just sprayed a portion of the red metal flake in a small sample jar and thinned it with paint thinner. I then brushed basic red paint over the areas, and I then brushed over with with that sample of red metal flake I sprayed into the jar, keeping it thin with paint thinner so it didn't clump too much. I then hit it with a clear coat sealer, which caused the metal flake particles in the brushed areas to distribute properly and blend in with the can-sprayed application. It worked out perfectly.

The other hardest part was gluing the trains to his skirt. The skirt is a poly blend plastic and hates glue. I ended up sanding it lightly and spraying it white to give the trains something to grip.

After 20 years, here's Tom!

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Crow T. Robot / My first bot build! Crow T. Robot lives!
« on: December 31, 2015, 07:46:50 PM »
Hey guys, first post here. I've been lurking around for awhile...

I've been an obsessive MST3K fan since about 1994 and I always wanted a pair of the bots.
I'm actually a prop builder(mostly Ghostbusters stuff) and statue/figure maker guy, so I have plenty of tools and experience, just not with the bots. I've been 'studying' this forum for awhile to see what kind of mess I would be getting myself into if I tried to make the bots...

For Christmas, my awesome wife bought me the Bob kits from ebay. Best Christmas ever! Despite having the flu, I went to work on the 26th and had them finished three days later. LONG HOURS. Trial and Error, unfit painting conditions(ice storm here in Texas with flickering unreliable power).

I mostly followed the guides Bob supplied, but I added some of my own techniques(different paint types, adhesives, etc). Overall, he probably took about 15 hours of actual work time.


Here's my Crow!

Some notes...I did not use Testors "Metal Flake Gold". All of the big hobby stores in town did not have it and after inquiring, they told me that the paint color was no longer available. You guys should look into that. I instead used Testors Inca Gold. It's really close to the same color and under different lighting, it can range from that greenish gold tint to a warmer color. I really love how it turned out.

I prepped all of the parts using autmotive paint methods, instead of basic car model stuff. The base plastics were first coated with adhesion promoter(basically aerosol acetone for plastic car parts). Then white auto primer, then fast-drying automotive touch-up gold, then finally the testors gold. This method actually dries a lot faster than using Krylon and Testors products, which can take hours to days to finally dry. It's just not necessary. The automotive touchup paints by dupli-color cost a bit more, but they dry almost instantly, which cuts down on the hours. They're also perfectly durable.  Another good thing about the Inca Gold I used is that it is a 'one coat' paint. While this is not necessary true(It still took three coats), it doesn't run like classic Testors sprays, especially the old Lime Gold/Metal Flake Gold, which was sort of a tinted clear coat.

Moving on! The first construction work I did was to cut the bowling pin. I figured if I could get that done right, the rest would be easy. I used a carbon diamond saw for my rotary tool and carefully cut the line. To make it look nicer, I slightly beveled the edges of the beak to make them look cleaner and to get rid of any rough spots in the cut. I had a mishap cutting the neck hole in the pin, but it was easily repaired with superglue and sandpaper.

Next was the control rod, eye dish, torso, etc. I eventually had it all figured out.  One of the more annoying parts was the rivet in the neck for the pull string. I know some people don't use it, but I love how it looks, so I eventually had it shaved down enough that it didn't drag the string.

The eye mechanism ended up being way easier to make than I thought it would be. Getting the goalie mask to balance on the back of the bowling pin took more work.

One question....What is the right way to fasten the shoulder joints to the shoulder blocks? Bob's kit just uses a wiring head clamp pushed around the peg, but it falls off so easily. Did the show do this? I'd much rather put a screw with a washer on the end, if that's accurate. 

Anyhow, here's Mr. T. Robot! It took me 20 years, but I finally have them. He's fully functional, clean, and sarcastic!

Tom is posted in the Tom Servo sub-forum!




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